The Barbel Society Barbel Challenge In Aid of The Army Benevolent Fund
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Bait!!

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    STOCKPORT
    Posts
    221
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts

    Default Bait!!

    Hi
    Hoping to stir a bit of interest in this site again and what better subject than bait, there again I just may be talking to myself
    After a discussion with a couple of friends and a post that appeared on Facebook I wonder, do we put too much faith/emphasis in our bait?
    I am a carp angler so the subject of bait is of great interest to me, I made my own for many years and only after 50yrs of doing it have started using readymades.
    The Facebook post was about a poor guy who caught two double figure barbel, I say poor because in the comments one of his mates hailed the anglers ability of catching such fish in adverse conditions, then another guy posted that, in not so many words, it was the bait he was using that did the trick and put down the anglers ability.
    So is it the bait or is it something you cannot buy, watercraft?
    Cheers Steve

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    romiley
    Posts
    196
    Thanks
    89
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts

    Default

    In my case its both......just cant catch :

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,256
    Thanks
    162
    Thanked 97 Times in 78 Posts

    Default

    Interesting thoughts, Steve, however IMO you can't catch a fish that isn't there, regardless of bait quality/price (not mutually inclusive terms). Watercraft, however, might just put you on the fish. And if you're on the fish, it then comes down to presentation over bait. Then a barbel might prefer maggots over pellets (or any other variation), so if you're using the latter there's still no hope. If they're on boilies/pellets I believe it really doesn't matter about the quality - they'll take whatever one offers. So; watercraft, presentation then bait, in that order.
    Cheers,

    Rich

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    STOCKPORT
    Posts
    221
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts

    Default

    Eddyb
    There is always the option of a guiding session, there seems to be quite an influx of these lately never heard of most of them tho.
    Richard
    I totally agree with your assessment and that is the order I would have put it. You mention situations of preference, this is where specialist anglers fail most I think, and lessons from the match angler would be beneficial they have this knack of reading these situations and acting upon them faster,, I've tried but it takes me too long to change, must be my age!!
    I also agree with your statement on bait quality, believe me, after the field testing stage most of the boilies you buy are mainly crap, pardon my language.
    Steve

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,256
    Thanks
    162
    Thanked 97 Times in 78 Posts

    Default

    Guides and bait company sponsorships - my two biggest bug bears. Every man jack and his dog seems to think he's the best angler out there. Poor, deluded lot. On your point about match anglers; yes, I've often heard that though I've never fished a match.

    I'm going to try and get on the Dove tomorrow, of perhaps the Goyt if time is short. When are you fishing? Or should that be, when aren't
    Cheers,

    Rich

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    STOCKPORT
    Posts
    221
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts

    Default

    Hi Richard
    It appears we are on the same wavelength,I too have a thing about 'field testers'. My mate has just signed up with a new bait company and still yet to catch on the all singing bait, I often wonder just how many of the fish they photo are actually caught on the 'bait' I believe we have a few 'stars' locally now.
    The last match I fished was in my twenties I couldn't adapt to the situations then either!!
    I'm going fishing tomorrow(fairly local) until Tuesday carp fishing, I am waiting for a phone call to arrange an evening on the Goyt back end of the week don't know where yet. I dropped my card for the Dove this year but looking at DRAC who have stretch on Dove and upper Trent. The Dove runs off quite quickly so it should be ok for you, I believe three good fish came out first day. Good luck

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    romiley
    Posts
    196
    Thanks
    89
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts

    Default

    Steve, GUIDING SESSION !!!!!!!!!! when are you taking me ?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,256
    Thanks
    162
    Thanked 97 Times in 78 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    Hi Richard
    It appears we are on the same wavelength,I too have a thing about 'field testers'. My mate has just signed up with a new bait company and still yet to catch on the all singing bait, I often wonder just how many of the fish they photo are actually caught on the 'bait' I believe we have a few 'stars' locally now.
    The last match I fished was in my twenties I couldn't adapt to the situations then either!!
    I'm going fishing tomorrow(fairly local) until Tuesday carp fishing, I am waiting for a phone call to arrange an evening on the Goyt back end of the week don't know where yet. I dropped my card for the Dove this year but looking at DRAC who have stretch on Dove and upper Trent. The Dove runs off quite quickly so it should be ok for you, I believe three good fish came out first day. Good luck
    Yes, the Dove was kind to me overnight (as I mentioned, just, on the Goyt forum - naughty me!). Did you make it out? Re; stars - yes it must be frustrating when a bait you're testing turns out the be a turkey (not literally). I guess you use the 'go to' bait and claim the 'new' boilies did the trick.
    Cheers,

    Rich

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    STOCKPORT
    Posts
    221
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts

    Default

    Spot on Richard, one of the photos I have seen and mentioned on the goyt thread was caught on a maggot fished under a float of all things now that's something new.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,256
    Thanks
    162
    Thanked 97 Times in 78 Posts

    Default

    That's a surprise, though a hell of a lot of barbel have been caught on the Severn, Trent and other rivers by matchmen using that very thing. I think using boilies and pellets just give us an excuse to be lazy, stick our rod(s) on the rest and wait. I'm pretty sure that were I to roll a bait or float fish, I'd be more successful.

    I was talking to Howard Maddocks the other week and he rolls luncheon meat, exclusively. And it has to be said that he's had more than his fair share of success.
    Cheers,

    Rich

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •