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I have written to George Osborne to suggest that to ban subsidies for loss making projected hydro electric schemes might well save the taxpayer a few quid and thus help the national debt.

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I feel there's a strong case for more research to be done on the passage of larger fish through the turbine.

The only research done seems to be all on smaller fish under 58cm long.

They say that big fishing can pass ok but there's no research material to be found or available.

I suspect there will be input screens, with a mesh size small enough to deter larger fish. Objective will be to stop trees etc from wrecking or jamming the screw.

They have a problem. Large mesh size and large branches will get through and cause seizure. Small mesh size and the screens will get blocked with Tesco carry bags, and condoms.
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The closing date for the Hydro Scheme has come and gone and it has been an exciting few days as the total accelerated to just short of £100,000 from 103 investors. It has been a remarkable experience as a potential “family” has been created, from not only Stockport but from all over the UK and two from France, to nurture this project to produce clean energy. The response has surpassed virtually all if not all other Community schemes.

Unfortunately the news is not all good due to other developments over recent weeks and that now leaves us with options and opportunities, which we will explain. All things being equal, we think that the money raised would have enabled us to go ahead with the Otterspool Scheme, albeit borrowing more from the very supportive bank. But like the salmon, we have a number of weirs to leap.

Firstly we have now successfully negotiated Planning Consent. We now have full planning permission for both schemes, granted on 10th June by Stockport’s full Planning.

Secondly, at Otterspool, during the detailed work of negotiating the lease agreement, we discovered that a small part of the land that the Council (our prospective landlord) thought it owned is indeterminate. This needed the formality of a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO) which the Council was making. However, the CPO has been delayed by an unexpected objection concerning access to the riverbank by the Stockport and District Angler’s Federation. We had previously thought we had agreed sufficient provision with the fishermen but this unexpected objection means that further discussions have to take place to agree the nature of the CPO. These discussions and the resulting CPO process will take time.

In addition, the recent General Election process has been somewhat of a hindrance in that we had to cancel the official launch at the Town Hall which was planned well before the Election was called. We eventually held a well attended open-evening on the 19th May. However, just before election day we heard that the North West Development Agency (NWDA) were unable to give clarity about an apparent change in policy. Some time back we had made our submission to the NWDA for a grant of £100,000 and supplied our business plan based on obtaining a government Feed-In-Tariff (FiT) for the green electricity. Out of the blue we were getting messages from the NWDA saying that the then government might be implying that any scheme can have either the grant or the tariff, but not both as we have assumed in our financial modelling. With the change of government Ben spoke to his MP face-to-face who then wrote directly to the Minister responsible. We await clarification but we guess that this may become a detail in the Emergency Budget on 22 June

The reality of these two issues is that we have missed this year’s window of opportunity for construction as this has, broadly speaking, to take place at the end of summer and before winter.

We have asked ourselves the question whether we should simply give up (that’s easy!) or use our determination to achieve our goals next year?

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To do so we would need know that you would be happy to continue with your financial support. Your support would be a very solid base from which to raise more money, even if the Grant / FiT situation does not work in our favour, as we will by then have all of the regulatory permissions required (the Environment Agency permission is expected soon).

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It would give time for the issues about the CPO and FiT to be resolved.

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It would allow us to tender more widely for the Civil Engineering work, bringing down costs, as does the better rate we get for the Euro (we import the Archimedean screw and various other elements of the hydro system)
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The money would be securely deposited in the bank and none would be spent unless and until the full scheme approval was back on track and all the required funds raised.
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Your continued support would mean that the only barrier to construction next year is the raising of sufficient finance – something we believe we can overcome.

We consider every one of our investors as part of a family and at this point, before we make any decision, we would like “to ask the family” to hear what your thoughts and suggestions are.

To help us sift through your responses, could we ask you to indicate a simple 'yes' or 'no' to the question of whether you wish to maintain your financial support. If 'no', we will send you back your cheque. If 'yes' we will cash your cheque and hold it, as mentioned above, in a secure deposit account.

We firmly believe we can still achieve our aim of constructing two hydro sites and we need your support to help us do so.

If you have any questions, please write them also in your email response and we'll answer them as quickly as possible. Please send all your responses to...

Steve.welsh@h2ope.co.uk

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Other fact is that they needed 750K of public donations (investment) to get this project off the ground and it seems that they only raised 100k even with an extended deadline.

Thank god the people of Stockport have brains and can see that this project was a waste of time.
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They've fallen a long way short of their target, let's hope that potential investors are not happy to leave their money with "No H2oPE" for a year doing nothing! Let's all keep our eyes peeled for any further developments on this but I'm not expecting the EA to do anything other than grant the abstraction license.
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Just had notification from stockport council that otterspool weir and stringers weir applications have been GRANTED


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Yes, its does help if they got the Ex mayor of Stockport greasing the cogs in the planning dept.

I also know that somebody at Stockport council reads this thread.

You lot should be ashamed at yourself in your perfectic attempt at being green.

Im just glad that the people of Stockport could see through your smoke and mirrors.

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hi glenn,
does anyone know how long the planning permission lasts once granted,
before it expires?
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All depends if you know the Ex mayor of Stockport, but I think it 3 - 5 years
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Mr Jackson,
hi lads. i was talking to stockport councill this morning. and they have secured the land for the dams to be built. the first one will be built at otterspool next spring...if successfull p/mill weir will be next.. the only thing i couldent find out is how mutch of the weirs are going to be taken..?? billy


Following our telephone conversation, the main contact for anglers interests in relation to the schemes has been Tony Bielderman from the Stockport & District Anglers Federation. I understand that a couple of his colleagues from the Federation have also been involved in some of the discussions to maintain and improve anglers access to the riverbank at Otterspool when the hydro scheme is in place.



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