Quite agree with your post JayZs, being a mod doesn't necessitate you post on your fishing at all.

It's a kind of silent policing that goes on behind the scenes. Every post on the forum will be read by at least one mod. Remember when you joined the forums you agreed to the rules. Posts that don't are removed/edited accordingly. Pretty much a thankless task and more importantly the time it takes is voluntary. Perks... well there aren't that many to be honest.

If it weren't for the mod team the forum simply wouldn't exist. It's easy for threads to spiral out of control, sometimes it may only be bickering and back biting but as things progress it's not uncommon for it to lead into threats.

The forum's as good as it's members. Everyone, regardless of status makes it what it is.

This thread is turning into a bit of a joke. John, I wasn't commenting so much on the fact you're a moderator (of whatever variety - though Marvel Comics spring to mind ). The point I was making, though I thought it was pretty clear, is this; what are you doing on forums at all, if they're the alleged vehicle behind the destruction of the River Goyt.

Really, if anyone else tells me the river is fooked, I'll simply say "you're out of your mind"

I'm looking forward to the post from the seven horsemen of the apocalypse..

But seriously, and like I said, I respect you as an angler John.....any you have a keen eye for a good photograph. In the final analysis, and because I remain totally unconvinced by your argument, we're going to have to agree to disagree.

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It was fairly obvious that we would end up in disagreement Richard. I think we did last time too. Not a problem. I have always, underneath it all, said that an angler is free to choose how or if he reports his fish, although I will probably not think it well advised. Glad you have moderated your views somewhat in that you agree about not naming swims though.
I am also totally unmoved by your own arguments , I found a few of them rather lacking : broken records, Marvel Comics, this thread is a joke, etc. are hardly convincing points to make, but seem more like an attempt to ridicule.

I never said the river was "f....d", I said degraded, and I never said that the forums destroy rivers. Just that how forums are used does have an effect on the river, and certainly on my enjoyment of the waterside. My moderator comments were addressed to "thesaint999", not to you.

The thread may be a joke to you, not to me, as I care too much about all our waters. But as ever, I shall be pleased to see you once again on the river, where I am sure we will have a lively discussion about whatever subjects come up.

When the Horsemen of the Apocalypse do choose to post I hope it is just the usual four. I could cope with that.

Cheers and see you on the bank, hopefully soon.

how is a river degraded by other people fishing it ? are they your fish ? do you own the land ? no is the answer, I agree with richards comments , I still don't understand why you are on the forum if you are that secretive and become a moderator ? It seems to me ever since the article about Muslims on the goyt, that everything has changed on this forum . coincidence ???
agree to disagree most definitely.

Nothing has changed on this forum, JayZS has clearly stated that he's not one for showing his catches on the internet and respects the fact other people like to and want to.

This thread is valued, even if it was triggered by another off site thread that inturn was started by comments on another forum

Forums do have an effect on rivers, I myself have travel to places the wye and severn from information learned and given by other online forum users.

The muslims on the goyt post was made on the BFAMW forum. Some of its members are members here as they are many on BFW and they are welcome to join in, if they can keep it civil, if not they will just be banned

The goyt is not f**ked it's just got more people fishing it than before and we have agreed to disgree.

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Originally Posted by thesaint999

how is a river degraded by other people fishing it ? are they your fish ? do you own the land ? no is the answer, I agree with richards comments , I still don't understand why you are on the forum if you are that secretive and become a moderator ? It seems to me ever since the article about Muslims on the goyt, that everything has changed on this forum . coincidence ??? agree to disagree most definitely.

Not coincidence at all. The Muslims post had its origins in publicity from way back. Before this forum was born. Publicity that, back then, added fuel to another unholy row in BFW, and one that has simmered away in BFAMW.
They are not my fish, it is not my land, of course not. Hardly relevant to the question. But the totality of the experience of fishing the river and being there is wholly mine on the day. I care about far more than just the fish, and the publicity has had a direct effect on my enjoyment of the river.

You obviously have still not been back to read all my posts. It is not necessary to report fish captures in order to contribute positively.

It is not as simple as other anglers fishing. It is that the publicity attracts many of the wrong sort of anglers. Anglers who in some cases not only drop litter, light fires, but who do actual damage by, for instance, tree cutting. One angler proudly announced to me that when he cut down a willow that was growing into the water, he found four swim feeders in it. His idea was to look for more trees with feeders to cut down. I hope I dissuaded him from that quest.

Did you not read the part about a moderator being a completely separate job? A forum moderator does the same job, whether that forum be about fishing or about knitting willy warmers. It has no relation to the forum subject. I am both a member and a moderator. The two are unrelated. Separate entities. As a member you class me as being near the secretive end of the scale: I agree. I have, as a member, my reasons for being so. You will just have to deal with that. I would have been equally secretive had I not been asked to be a moderator. Would that have been fine with you? If not then tough! For there are other members just as secretive, some more so.

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