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Now before I start i will explain that I have been a match angler for quite a few years, and will start again next month when the team competition starts again.

I was the match secretary for our local club for a while and during this time i would not hold matches on our main river stretch because i dont think that holding Barbel in nets for long periods of time is acceptable.
All anglers whatever discipline you class yourself under, must be seen to care about the fish we catch, I have seen Carp anglers refuse to put a 12lb bream on their unhooking mat, not wanting "fooking slimey things" making a mess of their new mat!!! I have seen match anglers throw jack pike into the bushes cause they have been terrorising the swim. I have also seen Barbel anglers throw trout over the top of a weir coz they don't wont them nicking the bait!

is any of this acceptable? no!

So i do find this picture worrying, but i would also not be happy if this was a net full of carp, the net is of very low quality like those used 20years ago, could this be an old photo? I like to think as a whole we are progressing, most anglers now carry an un-hooking mat, and many that fish our local club lakes don't use keepnets for pleasure anymore. I just think we need to educate more and hopefully that will help.

You will never stop the matches on these lengths where big catches are to be had, but maybe the organisers need to hold them at a more suitable time of year, i.e. in the autumn when the Barbel are in better condition and the oxygen levels are higher? just a thought.

Well I'll stop my rambling now, as I'm probably going of track!!

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I couldn't get the video to run at first and thought it was a screen shot from Youtube.

I have now watched the video and it makes me even more annoyed!!
But this is more about these anglers rather than matchmen as a whole!

For aguments sake, if it was me, the fish would have been kept in a large rectangular carp net of a minimum 3.6m long made from a fine mesh. when the fish were placed on the ground they would of been put on a mat. the fish would of been returned individually to make sure they all swam off fine.

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Originally Posted by fishboyfishy View Post
could this be an old photo?
19th October 2009 is the date on YouTube!!
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i do not used a keepnet at all . and i would not use one you do not put barbel in a keepnet just my own a opinion they should be banned
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Do us all a favour Jam and delete that clip - dreadfull.
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No discussion - DON'T DO IT!
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I don't use a keepnet for barbel, nor any other species for that matter. I might use one for livebait when piking, but that is probably all. For anything else there are problems.

Bream, roach, chub etc suffer in a net, for unless very, very few are present, they soon lose much of that protective slime. In a river they can often be pushed sideways into the net by the current and held against the mesh. The net if used at all, should, I think, be laid out in line with the current, and have a flat bottom, with fish friendly mesh.

I suspect barbel, in such a net, would suffer less than fish like bream, but for all except match anglers, I don't like to see keepnets. Not even for chub. I don't really believe that chub have any special propensity to scare the shoal when returned, but they can always be returned a short distance away from the point of capture. Usually I find they saunter back into the stream as if nothing has happened.

Match anglers should have guidlines for keepnet usage, and in a river, the net should be arranged to ensure that fish, especially big fish, are put into the net facing upstream. If at all possible, big fish of all species should be subject to a weigh and immediately return rule. For big matches this may well not be too practical of course.

We are stuck with match angling, and modern match angling often means carp and sometimes barbel. All that can be done is to ensure there are best practice rules. Maybe there should be a mandate for two nets, for small fish at a "weigh in" can get crushed.

I think soft wet grass can provide a suitable alternative to an unhooking mat, but I also often unhook fish in the landing net whilst it remains in the water.
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